A rough and fun naval supplement for Dinosaur Cowboys

ShipsFor the Coos Bay campaign battle I knew I wanted to have the posses fight each other from the back of Swimmers. For those that aren’t familiar, traditional boats and ferries aren’t used in Dinosaur Cowboys. Instead in the spirit of the theme giant ferries and ship decks are strapped to the back of various dinosaurs, such as a ferry on a Thalassomedon or Mosasaurus, whereas a smaller sloop would be on a Nothosaurus.

Soooo you kind of end up with a ship deck, but in your imagination it’s on the back of a dinosaur. In terms of game mechanics that makes the boat MUCH more maneuverable since you can go backwards without momentum, cross small islands (since the dino can clamber across), etc.

Nathan-Swimmer
Mockup of a Swimmer provided by Nathan, one of the campaign players

In terms of the rules I mapped out decks for the Sloop and Skiff (which can be launched from the Sloop). The actual passengers ferries would be much larger. You can see the layout of these to the right, or in the rules themselves.

Otherwise the rules provide a framework for moving the ship, using various stations on board (like going “Below Decks” to heal, firing Swivel Guns and Cannons, etc.). There are also rules for boarding via boarding planks or grappling hooks. Also for swimming in deep water, and everything else necessary to add boats to a standard game of Dinosaur Cowboys.

In terms of balance and tweaks, we’ve only played the rules once, but they seemed to work well. The biggest complaint was that there wasn’t much incentive to fire a Cannon. So I’d consider tweaking those to Reload None (instead of Auto), giving it a bigger arc, maybe a different damage scheme (like 1D12 Attacks, D6 Damage), etc.

Download the Swimmer Naval Rules PDF for Dinosaur Cowboys

Anyway the rules are fairly one off so I don’t think I’ll revisit them again. I’ve been loosely brainstorming a new naval game in the back of my mind so this was somewhat an outlet for that. Plus it’s fun to have a unique battle every now and then!

Possible Variant rule: Trailblaze

MarchingI was thinking of a fun idea of a “Marching Order”, where basically if you are in a safe position you can move further. Now for the sake of fluff I’d probably call it Trailblaze, since marching brings to mind images like the right (which are still awesome, just not very cowboy-esque).
There are two options I could use. Either a Variant Rule OR a new Trait. How I envision it working is one of these ways, which are valid for either a trait or variant:

Trailblaze: Double Speed if no enemy entity is within 24″. Remove Defense bonus until the start of next Activation.
Trailblaze: For this Movement Phase use double Speed if no enemy entity is within 24″. Cannot perform an Action Phase this Activation.
Trailblaze: +4 Speed if no enemy entity is within 24″.

Pretty neat right? I could see this really giving mobility to entities who aren’t in the fight, but need to be. Sort of like if you deploy badly and need to reach somewhere you can. The downside is either the variant or trait could be exploited in some ways. For example a maxed out Runner being 24″ away and getting double Speed and going 10×2″ in one move. A maximum or cap on Trailblaze would help with this, such as “Double Speed up to 12″.

Game balance exhaustion

balanceYou know what is an unfun process? Trying to balance a game, specifically this one :) You would think by now, after years and development, this game is relatively balanced. And in the sense of “it’s symmetrical, so everyone has the same resources”, you’d be correct.
Where the problem really comes into play is when one strategy dominates the game. This has been especially noticeable in the Battle to Seattle campaign. Initially two posses were focused heavily on rifles. But in yesterdays game the third posse reworked a bit to also try to focus on rifles. In the end this meant 3 players independently decided to bring 300kW Twin Rifles and build a similar character to wield it.
Now this is not technically unbalanced on it’s own, since everyone could buy the same rifle and use the same stats. Where the unbalance and problem comes in is that’s now how I intended the game to be. I never meant for each game to devolve into a “sniper match” where everyone lines up and doesn’t move very much. I figured the mechanics and choices supported this, such as having tons of pistols to choose from and dinosaurs that are only effective up close. But what actually ended up happening is a sniper “arms race”.
You might have heard the term “kill your darlings”, which basically means don’t just coddle an idea because you spent a long time on it. But what’s really hard is killing someone elses darling (which sounds really dark and morbid). What I mean is the initial rifle users enjoyed shooting at long ranges and outdistancing everyone. But because the game isn’t designed around that, it sort of has to change or go.

A few important points have come out of this:

1. Neodollars on their own are not enough of a balancing mechanic. A lot of guns are priced $10-$20 different from each other, with the idea that each player will be strapped for cash. What actually ends up happening is everyone buys the biggest gun they can, regardless of price, and based purely on the stats, and then just builds a posse around that. Either that or they get flush with enough cash, such as halfway through the campaign where we have $1500-$2000 to throw around, and then money is no object. Armor suffers from the same problem, which is why I had to add a Speed penalty to try to balance, because money alone is not enough.

2. Skirmish games are actually pretty hard to balance and to prevent a dominant strategy, especially in a smaller play group. If a strategy doesn’t have a valid counter besides one-upping the same strategy, that’s a problem. But all this thought on balance brought me back to thinking of Mordheim and Necromunda. Now that I think about it people always complained about the balance in Mordheim, saying mass slings were overpowered, armor was too expensive, etc. That is basically the whole idea of the Coreheim fan project. I’d like to be able to achieve a playing field where most combinations of weapons work and are feasible.

3. Playtesting on your own is not enough. It’s like quality assurance for software in some ways. Subconsciously I think when I playtested I might have thought rifles were overpowered, so I tended to keep just 1 in a posse instead of having that be the focus. Similarly

4. I need more terrain. Now that we have two 3′x4′ games going simultaneously (which was awesome by the way) I realize I need more terrain. I was happy with the amount of terrain I had for ONE such board, but two just means everything is spread way, way too thin. I’m going to try to get my friend to bring over his terrain which should help build some line-of-sight blocking avenues. I think this has helped demonstrate the power of rifles when you can get a pretty clear shot right up to your max range.

So what to do?
Well, tweak. Try to bring rifles to a point where they are support weapons, instead of basically high damage weapons that are always shooting you from further than you can shoot. My ideal situation is a midrange battle in the center of the table, since there are the most guns available at that range, it gives some leeway for close combat to happen, etc. But due to point #3 above I think I overlooked rules and weapons that prevented this from happening. It’s tough because even when I try to build a posse different than what I normally do, I still feel like deep down it’s influenced by my play style and choices.
Which is why public playtests are great, and also why this longer running campaign with friends is perfect. The one-off games we’ve done in the past normally had prebuilt posses from me, so there was sort of a natural balance. Whereas now it’s “winner take all” and everyone understands the building rules well enough to capitalize on any holes or flaws in the rules.

A good related quote from “The Art of Game Design” on balance:
“…balancing a game is nothing more than adjusting the elements of the game until they deliver the experience you want.”
So in summary right now a sniper arms race is not the type of gameplay I envisioned for Dinosaur Cowboys.

Drylands Expedition reworked to v2.5 – Windy River

Drylands-Expedition_textAs you know I’ve been working on some new weapons for the upcoming v2.5 release.

Although the live Saloon version is still using v2.3 (at the time of this post), I’ve been testing internally with building posses using a v2.5 instance of Saloon.

What that means is I got to tweak the Drylands Expedition from my Windy River test campaign to use v2.5. I tried to keep the overall flavor of each member, but was happy to be able to use some new weapons too. For example Quidel changed from a Heavy Pistol (which no longer exists) to a LeDuc Revolver and cheap Break Action Shotgun. Gibson dropped his aging Laserbow to try out a Variable Pulse Rifle. I even used some minor changes like Salve being the same price as Small IRP to buy one of those for Crazy Rhodes instead of his old approach. With all the new pistols available Sarah Love was finally able to get started on a brace of different types. So she has a Volcanic Pistol for up close and a Peacemaker for slightly longer shots. Her old dual Handcannons went to Crazy Rhodes, who has a better RTN anyway, and his figure matches the dual wield look well.
And so on and so forth.

Anyway here is the PDF roster of the v2.5 Drylands Expedition. I just thought it was neat to see such an “established” posse being updated to the latest weapons.

What I hope to do at some point in the future is revisit this campaign. Maybe not to play it for many more games, but one big finale would be great. Maybe the fight at the Night Dagger camp itself is the finale. That’ll be after the Battle to Seattle campaign wraps up of course. So nice to have all this Dinosaur Cowboys gaming going on.

Also I’m away this weekend so no Battle to Seattle game or other posts this week. Back at it with a fun fight at Lake Tahoe on March 6th though!

Updating close combat weapons too

Melee-WeaponsWell after the grand overhaul of range weapons the last couple of days, I sat down and brought melee weapons in line too. More variety (well, not quite to the medieval list pictured right), better prices, bigger selection, and a few new weapon abilities unique to close combat.

Lance: This weapon can only be used while mounted. Add +1 damage when performing a Charge with this weapon.
Opportunity: Add +2 Attacks when performing a Snap Attack with this weapon.
Poacher: Add +1 Attack against Dinosaurs.
Sap: On a hit of 2+ total damage the attacker heals 1 Hitpoint (cannot exceed their starting Hitpoints).

Also I used some of the new special abilities for range weapons to make new close weapons, like the Energy Sword which uses Power Settings.

Now we’ve come a long way from knife + broken bottle + hatchet (aka the only close combat weapons real wild west cowboys used), but variety is the spice of life, and it’s fun to have some sci-fi stuff going on. Also if you have trouble visualizing a Duster wielding an Energy Sword, just think of some Neotechnoist in his high tech armor riding out through The Wall mounted on a custom breed of dinosaur, with bright banners everywhere and gun bearers scurrying behind. Besides…it’s fun!

As before the prices for equivalent Attack/Damage stats on close combat weapons is cheaper than range weapons. Because you have to get up close to hit someone in the face with them. For example the 3A-7D Long Sword is $130, 4A-4D Axe is $80, 6A-0D Spine Blade is $40, and the 2A-2D Bar Stool is $5. Compared to say a 400kW Six-Shooter at 4A-4D for $110, or 6A-2D Ultra Repeater for $150.

Anyway here is the PDF snippet of the new close combat weapons. These will be in the upcoming v2.5 release of the main rulebook.

I have another Battle to Seattle game tonight, set in Death Valley. Should be a grand old time! I’ll post some pictures asap. Also we are having a “bonus game” this Saturday, which is a pleasant surprise. It will be at the race track in Pahrump (east of Death Valley), which of course will be ruined.

Some weapon ideas

Dual-WalkerSee the end of this post for an update!

For a long time I’ve had this item on my TODO list:

- Calculate weapon stats using math instead of off the cuff

It’s a big one though, just because of the sheer number of existing weapons. However right now a lot of those weapons aren’t really choices since they are junk (Throwing Knife) or way too expensive to ever see actual play (Flamethrower). What I’d like to do, besides making sure each weapon is mathematically balanced, is add a bunch of NEW weapons as well, touch up the old ones, and give players a lot more choice.
I’m going to aim this for a v2.5 release, again a slight version jump because of the significant changes. It’ll also ruin a lot of old Saloon links if I remove weapons, but that’s the cost of progress sometimes. I wouldn’t worry about releasing these changes until after the Battle to Seattle campaign, just to not rock the boat too much with the existing players. So that would mean end of April maybe.
Here’s my brainstorm doc transcribed from a scribbled note sheet I wrote very late last night:

- Flare Gun
– Min range 2
– Halve target Defense until start of attacker’s next Activation
– Apply to whole allied team, so you can “mark” a target
– Need high tech version too (Holotargeting Marker?)

- Sonic Gun or Bronto Gun (like Elephant Gun)
– 4A-0D, force Bravery Test on 2+ total damage

- Variable Pulse Rifle or Flux Rifle
– 5A-1D base, but can change before each attack, as long as total is 6
– For example 4A-2D, 3A-3D, 1A-5D, 6A-0D, etc.

- Lever-Action Rifles
– 3A-4D stays, 3A-5D (or maybe 6D) becomes 2A. Current 3A-7D becomes 1A-7D.
— Remember to adjust Reload as well
– Maybe minimum range to 5 (from 4)

- Shotgun
– Can use Buckshot (“Rippershot”) for 4A-1D (or whatever)
– Or can use Slug at 1A-4D
– Can choose at start of game and on a Reload, or manually spend an action to change types

- Different Six-Shooters, styled after real world
– Volcanic for example is 5A, less damage
— eg 5A-0D entry level is equal to 4A-1D six-shooter
– LeMat revolver (renamed to LeDuc or something)
— Can fire buckshot in the real world, not sure how to account for that
– Walker pistol, high caliber (+Damage)
– Peacemaker pistol, long range

- Need more $10 entry level options as an alternative to 80kW Six-Shooter
- Need to remove junk weapons
- Need more close range shotgun variety, instead of just the three types
– Maybe add wattage ratings to shotguns? Or whatever rating plasma capacitors use
- Maybe need a new way to display similar weapons so the list isn’t just 10 different wattages
- General new rule: Avoid anything that does 10+ damage
– Exception are “Heavy Weapons”
— Such as cannon, flamethrower
— Heavy Weapons maybe have “Ponderous” (or something, maybe just “Heavy”) special rule which is -1 SPD, no Hustle, no Charge
- Need slightly more Medical Devices, specifically a $10 Delayed type

Update with a PDF
Well I actually wrote this post yesterday and scheduled it for this morning, and in the mean time I went through and did a first pass at revising the weapons! I’m really happy with the changes. The various pistols provide different approaches to Attack/Damage, while remaining thematic to their true world counterparts. I also like the shotgun revisions, updates to Twin Rifles, tweaks of Lever-Action Rifles, improvements to Laserbows, Throwing weapons, etc. Plus who doesn’t love the name “Bronto Gun”, which is like an Elephant Gun, but for Brontosauruses. In addition the balance between weapons for their cost and stats is a lot better now.
Anyway you can take a look at the revised weapons and items here: Revised Items PDF. I’ll be tweaking these more as I go forward, so like I said look for a full release after the campaign, so sometime in April. Remember of course you can always see the latest rulebook in the bleeding edge Dropbox which is synced with my computer.

Finally on dinosaurcowboys.com

Well after a year of humming and hawing I finally decided to take the plunge and get an “actual” .com domain. So as long as I keep payin’ you’ll be able to use http://dinosaurcowboys.com/ instead of the older, uglier, and messier dinosaurcowboys.wordpress.com. This also means you can reach me by email at carlo@dinosaurcowboys.com. Pretty neat!

Also I wanted to self congratulate that the site surpassed 80,000 total hits a few days ago. I know hit counters are so old fashioned, and most people don’t care about views, but I do! :) Coming from a childhood of 5 hits per year on some Angelfire homepage I crudely made with all-caps HTML, this is a nice big improvement. According to the WordPress stats my best day was 475 views. Most of the time it’s around 60-150 views though.

Update a few weeks in: One downside I noticed is the traffic really dropped off with the domain change, I guess because some old posts that were indexed at the .wordpress. address no longer are? Strange since the wordpress address still redirects properly. I guess I’ll just have to build up the traffic and search results again.

Winter is Coming

Winter-is-ComingWell I don’t normally like to post memes on here, but I figured if I’m going to I may as well go ALL OUT. So handless Philosoraptor on the body of a Game of Thrones meme. What a world!

Anyway I wanted to take today to talk about a few v2.1 brainstorms. That’s right, the update train just keeps on chugging! Certainly no core revisions as sweeping as the jump from v1.0 to v2.0.

  1. One fix (compared to a new feature) I’ve wanted to do so far is the Wound/Injury table effects. They are a bit inconsistent and some are poorly worded, and some don’t even make sense (like “Broken Tail” for the dinosaur, since they ignore Difficult Terrain already). Unfortunately I didn’t realize all this before I released v2.0! I was too focused on making sure the mechanics themselves were sound, avoiding the death spiral, etc. instead of grammatical touch ups.
  2. The other fix I would consider is calculating the value and statistics of weapons based on a mathematical formula. I did that for Improvement Points and statistics, and that worked well. So somehow quantifying Attacks, Damage, Distance, special abilities, etc. into the overall cost and balance of the weapon.
  3. Speaking of equipment I’ve considered a ranged Medical Device. I can’t help but think of the medgun from Team Fortress 2, but I’m sure I can come up with something more suitable to the Dinosaur Cowboys theme. Similarly healing “generators” that can be dropped/setup on the ground to heal in a radius could be fun.
  4. Finally I wouldn’t mind revisiting the Trait list and making sure that all of them have a use, and are somewhat balanced against each other. There will probably still be obvious winners, but it’d be nice if I got rid of some obvious losers too (for example I don’t see a ton of value in Sniper Shot or Tracking Shot when you could just get Skilled Shooter instead). I know my original intention was for players to take some of the better Traits first, then if they REALLY wanted to specialize take some of the less good Traits. So go for Skilled Shooter I and II, but then circle back and also take Tracking Shot or similar.

For rulebook formatting I still am considering trying to go to a 2-column format, and add a bit more design art inside. Maybe small little images of cacti and dinosaurs in the footer, for example.

Snowdrift-and-FencesFor new Features, and related to the title of this post, I really want to get some Seasonal features. Such as snowdrifts, snow, hail, slippery ice, cold weather, biting wind, etc. Similarly blinding and burning sun rays, high temperatures, heat stroke, heat exhaustion, dehydration, etc.
This is the perfect real world time to start on these plans because this morning my car had ice on it for the first time this year. So the phrase “Winter is Coming” is certainly apt. I could see playing a few matches on a snow-based table by taking my normal terrain and messily sprinkling it with fake snow of some sort.
So besides Features based on the season and weather, I want to add a few more general Features too! I think the Features are a great aspect of the game. Basically players can choose various Features that affect how the table is setup or how the match will go. Some are small changes (like Gusting Winds) and some are big changes (like Shield Generators or Volcanoes). And having dozens of options to choose from will just add variety to campaigns. Because they affect everyone on the table I don’t have to worry as much about balancing, and can just go for neat and thematic rules.

Some possible examples of new additions:
- Blinding Sun and Burning Sun
– Blinding Sun would start on a random table edge and move throughout the battle, shooting towards that edge (into the sun) gives a penalty
— Also maybe have one effect that disallows Long Range
— Another that allows ANY range but a max of 15″ or something
– Burning Sun would do a 1A-0D attack to everyone not adjacent to a tree (shade)?
- Rivers
– Some push, some drown, some are full of vicious dinosaurs, some are swampy and slow, etc.
- Propane and exploding barrels
– Needs to do somewhat good damage to be worth shooting
— Or have a useful effect (like an acid barrel that does damage over time)
- Have winter rules for Christmas
– Perhaps get colder as entity does more Activations
— Can warm up with items? Or by ending Activation by a geothermal vent?
—– Sort of like Don’t Starve with huddling around a fire in winter

Poker-SaloonThere is also a set of Initiative rules I’m considering. They probably won’t make it into the rulebook as a Variant because they are rather more complex and involved than most Variants, but I do want to try them sometime. Basically:
- Option for standard playing cards for Initiative
– Get 3 playing cards to begin with, draw 1 per activation, draw 3 more if hand is ever empty
— Players both put a card face down, flip at the same time, higher wins init
—– On tie discard both cards and redo
— The idea is to give a bit more control over when you try for initiative
— Since you could just “throw” a low card when you don’t care
– Face cards naturally beat numbers, just like a normal card game
– Could also draw the 1 card / player face UP instead of face DOWN
— This would introduce a bit of bluffing, because you could pay attention and start to figure out what the opponent has available

Oh and finally I thought I’d just drop this brainstorming tidbit…
- “Circus” Allegiance
– Random positive and negative stat modifier?

Weird Posse build: Max 49 Hitpoint Leader

When I was paging through the rulebook before the v2.0 release I remembered I had put the maximum base Hitpoints at 40. I immediately wondered what a Posse dedicated to reaching that cap would look like. Pretty interesting idea right?
Well the result is the Snake River Cavalry (Saloon link) (PDF link).

little_wars_dinosaur_knight_by_keithburgun-d303pnrI went for the theme of a roving, slightly mad Knight (everyone who wanders around the future seems to be a bit crazy). A knight certainly doesn’t fit the general Dinosaur Cowboys theme, but it’s still fun, haha. Anyway I hired two very basic Members who have given up every single stat they can with Voluntary Weakness to provide as much IP as they can to the Leader.
The Leader himself started as a Duster who got max Hitpoints (40) through huge IP expenditure. Then he greedily took three Passive traits to reach Bonus HP III for a total of 49 Hitpoints! Pretty wild. I wanted him to be survivable instead of just a bullet sponge, so with the left over IP he has +1 DEF and enough for a suit of Dinohide Armor for a total of +4 DEF.
But just having a hard target wasn’t enough, the Knight needed to be able to hit back. Although a Shudder Lance would have been quite thematic, and I might do a variant build with that, I settled instead of the classic Heavy Repeater and a Machete (should have been a Short Sword). Throw on a pair of Large IRPs for easy HP recovery and he’s quite deadly.
Then of course his mount, a Runner of the Plains Breed. Pretty flimsy but super fast, so the Knight should be able to reposition once at least.

Here’s how it all looked in the end:

Posse: Snake River Cavalry by Carlo (1/100 IP, 0/1000 ND, 3/3 Traits)

Knight Alfandor (Duster Leader)
DEF 4, RTN 6, CTN 8, BTN 7, SPD 4, HP 49, Bonus HP, Bonus HP II, Bonus HP III.
Heavy Repeater, Machete, Dinohide Armor, Large IRP, Large IRP.

Squire Peter (Bandit)
DEF 0, RTN 8, CTN 8, BTN 12, SPD 1, HP 1.

Squire Carrie (Bandit)
DEF 0, RTN 8, CTN 8, BTN 12, SPD 1, HP 1.

Jousty (Plains Runner Dinosaur)
DEF 0, DIS 4, CTN 9, PANIC D10, SPD 11, HP 11.

And who would have thought but “knight on dinosaur” is actually a pretty popular image search term! The image above is from keithburgun.

Now I’m rather tempted to pit this wacky build against a normal posse and see who wins. I wonder if lucky hits would slowly whittle the Knight down, and if he could do enough reliable damage with RTN 6 to kill all the enemies. I feel like an enemy posse that had a massive dinosaur to bog the Knight down would help quite a bit.

The more thematic version with a lance and six-shooter would look like this instead:

Knight Alfandor (Duster Leader)
DEF 4, RTN 8, CTN 6, BTN 7, SPD 4, HP 49, Bonus HP, Bonus HP II, Bonus HP III.
Plasma Lance, 300kW Six-Shooter, Dinohide Armor.

New 2013 Papo Dinosaurs!

Well no one ever accused me of being in the loop, but luckily I was randomly doing a search for Papo today and found some absolutely awesome 2013 releases. I’ll cut right to the chase: Dimetrodon (Fin), Carnotaurus (Terror), Pteranodon (Flapper), and a Woolly Rhino.
Remember how I added the Fin dinosaur type a while back? Well it was actually March 2012 as a herbivore match for the Raptor. Since then I don’t know if the beast has ever seen the table. The main reason for that was no easy Papo purchase to match everything else! Well, that’s been remedied now and I’ll soon be buying the newly released Dimetrodon. The craziest part is Dimetrodon is not technically a dinosaur (which is why I put a disclaimer in the rulebook for people who thought the combination of dinosaurs available lived at nearly the same time).
The Carnotaurus also looks cool and would be a nice match to the Allosaurus, and to have a change of pace for the Terror type.
Even though Flappers aren’t used in combat having the dino could make for a nice objective or goal on a map.
The Woolly Rhino looks like a lower quality sculpt from their non-dinosaur line so I’ll probably pass on that.

Anyway the important part! Piiiiiiictures! I didn’t have much luck finding a really high resolution version, so I ended up cutting these out from their electronic catalog.
Papo_Fin-Dimetrodon
Papo_Terror-CarnotaurusPapo_Flapper-PterosauriaPapo_Woolly-Rhino

Update Sept 20th: So I ended up ordering all three of these dinosaurs from Everything Dinosaur, since I didn’t have any luck buying them locally in stores. Now to just anxiously wait for the package to be shipped and delivered. I’ll get some better pictures and use them in a game as soon as they arrive!

Update Oct 1st: Dinosaurs arrived by Air Mail yesterday! Got them unpacked and they look great, especially the Dimetrodon. I’ll get some pictures this weekend, and I think I’ll also redo my out of date Papo Dinosaur Gallery post.

See also: New 2012 Papo and New 2014 Papo.

Good Mounts with Lizardmen from Games Workshop

I thought I’d deviate a bit from plain cowboys and look at some figures from Games Workshop. I can’t believe the price of some of these though. $70 for a kit?! Are you KIDDING ME?! How do people even still play Warhammer?
But anyway the Lizardmen sculpts are pretty cool, and I like the background fluff on them with South-America-as-Lustria. Something about jungles makes them rather appealing.
I figured some of these could be useful as Dinosaur Cowboy mounts since some have saddles sculpted on. Just need some wide legged cowboys to drop into the saddle instead of lizard people.

Bastiladon
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First up is the recently released Bastiladon, who looks like a mildly overweight Ankylosaurus. The kit has an option to do a crystal laser thingy or have units mounted on it with some kind of snake dispenser. All that looks pretty ridiculous but the main dinosaur is nice and beefy so that’s neat.

Stegadon
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Next is the Triceratops equivalent called the Stegadon. The dinosaur has sort of a scrunched up face, but what I really like is the howdah on the back. I could definitely see de-Aztecing it a bit and leaving it empty so figures could sit right aboard the figure. One of these days I’ll get around to mounting a howdah on a Papo toy since I think that’d look a lot more atmospheric than putting the “mounted” figure beside the toy. The less gaudy gold howdah looks even better for this model, but again I just think of what I could get for $70 instead (the price might vary depending on where you’re looking from).

Carnosaurus
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Now we get into the carnivorous offerings with the Carnosaurus, which is just a big mish mash of various real world dinosaurs, but does a good job creating an imposing, menacing predator. The first picture (the gray dinosaur) is actually a Troglodon according to the website, and it looks like a Spinosaurus, which most people probably remember from Jurassic Park 3. Anyway I like the saddle work even if it’s still more Aztec than cowboy. The dangling reins and dynamic pose are very cool and would make a perfect platform for a melee focused character.

Terradon
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Here are some aerial dinosaurs equivalent to the “Flapper” type in Dinosaur Cowboys, in this case named the Terradon. There wouldn’t be much use for them since Flappers are non-combat dinosaurs just used for transportation. But they’re still pretty neat looking!

Razordon and Cold One
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And finally a couple of miscellaneous dinosaurs. The first picture is of a prodded Razordon and would be useful for a generic dinosaur encounter, or to represent a Ripper perhaps. The second is a Cold One and could pass for a Raptor if it was a bit bigger (since a Raptor can carry two people). $20 is pretty steep for a single figure, but I imagine you’re getting tired of me ranting about price :)

Conclusion
Anyways there are some nice options if you are a Games Workshop fan, or maybe already have a Lizardmen army and are looking to branch out in your tabletop gaming choices.

I’m going to try to get a game in soon and post another battle report, probably from the Wind River campaign concerning the Drylands Expedition reaching Hyran Mine. I’m thinking the posse will be hired to take on the Night Daggers and go from there. I’m also thinking of doing a fortified, Feature-heavy match with Weapon Emplacements, Shield Generators, etc.

Hooray hooray I’m back I’m back!

Medieval-Dinosaur
Fiiiiiiiiinally I’m back to a place where I can make new entries, play more Dinosaur Cowboys, tweak a few rules, and maybe even try to paint a few figures. My move went well and I’m now in a much larger house compared to my previous living arrangements. In the long gap I used my creative energies to make a quick, light boardgame of Few vs Many called Cornered (which I might post briefly about in the future), take advantage of the Steam Summer Sale to buy XCOM: Enemy Unknown and play a ton of that, get caught up on my movie watching, and generally bask in the sunny outdoors with BBQs and fun activities.

Anyway I have a few links saved up to post about, so I’ll try to get through those the next couple of days. In my new house I have a dedicated games room (still partially being set up) so once I finish unpacking my figures I’ll get a game of Dinosaur Cowboys going to have a new battle report to post. I’m also looking to synchronize the current rulebook to a Dropbox download to make it easier to keep up to date between “official” releases.

In the mean time here are some cool genre bending pieces of dinosaur art and a bunch of incredibly well done figures:
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Those pictures, and plenty more, are from the great Colonel O’Truth’s Miniature Issues blog: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Heck even some Warhammer 40,000 Ork dinosaur riders:
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Other Miniature Lines
In other miniature news, there are some nice true western figures from “Ainsty Castings”, like these (including Abraham Lincoln with an axe ala the recent Vampire Hunter movie). They have a bunch of cool resin terrain too.

Other Cowboys vs Dinosaur Game
Someone made a quick and simple game out of the classic dollar store Cowboys vs Indians plastic toys, which I think every kid has considered doing at one point or another. Normally this wouldn’t be related to Dinosaur Cowboys, but they also made rules for dollar store plastic dinosaurs! Read more at Gamification + Dinosaurs.

Video Games in the Genre
There are two pieces of news related to video games in the genre. The first is about the underwhelming ORION: Dino Beatdown game that was so bad that they tried to rename it to ORION: Dino Horde (similar to how The War Z was such a bad ripoff that they renamed it to Infestation Survivor Stories). Annnnnnyway with all that said they HAD a new DLC released, but the link I had for it (this) no longer works, so maybe they removed the DLC. All in all this is a rather boring news item :)
What is MORE exciting is The Stomping Land, which just had a successful Kickstarter campaign, and looks sort of like a multiplayer Turok. Can’t complain with that!

Goals Coming Up
I still have two Deployments I want to add to the core rulebook called “Delayed” and “Layered”. I also want to integrate the awesome art from spohniscool into the rulebook. I want to play a game before the end of the week, and hopefully get that written up by midweek next week. I’m just going to play a one-off skirmish, maybe a “Civil War” style with both posses being exactly the same. Then I want to get back to the Windy River Campaign. I also have been brainstorming some dinosaur armor and equipment rules with my friend, so I might playtest those as an optional expansion (not part of the core rules). So lots to do, but now I’m nearly 100% settled so I’ll have more time to play again!

So thanks for bearing with me while I dropped off the face of the Earth for a while. Hopefully I can get back into exciting posts full of interesting content!

Going into cold storage

JP-Frozen-EmbryosWell my personal life is going to intrude with ability to sit down and play Dinosaur Cowboys for the foreseeable future. I’m looking at moving houses and the dinosaurs, terrain, and figures just went into cold storage (aka a cardboard moving box) last night.
But yeah, I might try to post here and there, but any content would just be related to the game as compared to battle reports. Plus I figure I’ll be swamped doing showings, viewings, paper work, etc. When everything is settled I’ll definitely be eager to try Dinosaur Cowboys in some kind of half-imagined games room!
And obviously if you can’t identify the movie scene featured in the image then you need to see more dinosaur movies!

Update end of May: I’m still alive, and still unable to get back to Dinosaur Cowboys at this point. All my figures and dice are packed away. By the end of June I’ll be moved to my new house, so hopefully sometime in July I can start posting again. Definitely missing my tabletop fix!

G.A.S.L.I.G.H.T. and Pulp Alley dinosaurs pictures

G.A.S.L.I.G.H.T.
I thought I’d mention two rulesets that sometimes end up including Dinosaurs. The first is G.A.S.L.I.G.H.T. which is terrible to type, and has sort of a goofy looking website, but is definitely a labor of love and quite a cult classic. I wanted to share a bunch of pictures from the Boardgamegeek gallery, pretty much all from the user Yugblad. Pretty awesome looking games going on. Definitely a Victorian flair, since the game focuses on that era, but yeah, looks like a fun time.

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The porter carrying the ivory tusk and running from the dinosaur reminded me of Kwabena from my Windy River test campaign. Also it makes me want to get a few porter figures, most likely these three 28mm porters from Reapermini. I don’t really have any non-combatant figures, so that’d be an interesting change.

Pulp Alley
The second ruleset is Pulp Alley, which is a bit smaller and looks to be focused a bit more on gumshoes and the Indiana Jones style of gaming (and that era). The official site has a Pulp Alley battle report forum with plenty of cool games. I thought I’d focus specifically on Dinosaur Plateau, a battle report that had some good pictures that I’d duplicated below. In general the reports (especially from the game designer) seem to have really great, imaginative terrain. Makes me wish I had some of those adobe houses.
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Considering an update to Equipment

So the current (v1.9) Equipment list has been carried forward since the early, RPG focused Dinosaur Cowboys days. And I feel that these items might need to be revisited. There are 38 available Equipment choices, but of them only 8 have any listed, in-game effect (in this case all the medical equipment).

I had made a note a while back to consider changing these items so that they all do something. Here is that chunk of good ol’ brainstormin’:

  • Split the Equipment lists into “Common” and “Combat”, maybe call it Gear instead? Or something more flavorful
  • Helps for campaigns so that players have more disposable things to buy
  • Need a new framework for consistent timings. Like “Use Once”, “Once per Encounter”, “Constant”, etc.
  • Basically like buying Active Traits, since some of the effects would be similar
  • Items like Bugle (re-roll 1 dice), Banner (+2 to Initiative once per game), etc.
  • Tobacco, can choose to be chewing for the whole game at the start of each game. +1 BRV -1 HP
  • Alcohol to reduce damage from first shot

So let’s look at this in terms of pros and cons:

Pros of Reworking Equipment
- Provides more options per turn, per character
- Could potentially restrict the number of items to ease rules confusion
- Fun and flavorful and a bit less abstract than Traits
- Can be a useful way to advance a posse with Neodollars beyond just better weapons
- Good money sink, especially for veteran posses and those in campaigns

Cons of Reworking Equipment
- Easier in campaigns than one-off games since players will know their posse better, so they won’t get overwhelmed with choices each turn
- May water down the effect of Traits by duplicating or replacing some of the functionality (for example Rope providing the same bonus as “Climber”)
- May add unnecessary extra special rules, again using Rope as an example it might be “Roll a D12, on 8+ move up a hill without penalty”
- More rules to potentially forget, as sometimes happens already with Traits in the heat of battle
- Hard to track on the roster
- Additional complexity around duration of items, etc.

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My biggest concern of all that is: Traits getting watered down and less unique, and more rules that might be forgotten during a battle.

The other (nearly unspoken) alternative to this is just remove all the items, or trim them down to 5 or 6 choices. Right now it feels like I’m sort of on the fence since a few items have effects but most don’t. And although some of the items provide good choices for roleplaying in a campaign, in general I don’t think they’d come up that often. So it might be time to trim the fat instead of revising the list.

But if I WAS going to revise the equipment, here’s a general idea of what I would do. I’m not going to bother with prices at the moment, more just getting a feel for the number of items and their effects…

…Haha, so when I started typing (beginning with the effects) I realized I was basically listing Traits. So that doesn’t make sense to me. In the interest of completeness here were some of the ideas before I stopped:

Ignore Difficult Terrain from slopes (hills, cliffs, etc.), +1 to Initiative, Ignore Difficult Terrain once per encounter, Ignore Difficult Terrain on 9+ on D12, Reduce Falling Damage in half, +1 to Hustle distance once per encounter, Re-roll a Charge dice, Mount or Dismount a dinosaur for free (some kind of Pony Express saddle)

What I’ll Try
So here’s what I’m going to try instead! I’m going to remove Equipment, add a Medical chart (to the right of Armor items in the rulebook), and add a bunch of new Traits. New Traits are always fun, and I’ve considered updating that list for a while. I’m also going to revisit the Trait formatting since right now the big page long list of items is overwhelming. I might break them down by categories or something. I also want to change how they are used to be a bit more clear, so some will be “Before Attack”, others will be “Start of Turn” and so on…maybe.

I’m also going to rename the Medical equipment. I don’t know if I like “IRP” anymore. We’ll see though.

Anyways look for more on this topic later!

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